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yeah, i have my own farm on there lol.

sorry was looking for a rear wiper motor at the same time lmao.

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golf wrote: why cant i rear this post?

Hi Cocker,

You can`t "Rear" anything on this forum.;) I beleive that you can have your own "farm" on "facebook"!;)...............PMSL.:D

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Bones n Hombre wrote: Yeah this I can imagine is what really happens , however if it was MY business , I would take the time to KNOW , what I needed to know to protect myself , I mean how long would it take to read both , maybe 3 -4 hours , cover to cover. Do that once a year to remind yourself of things and hey presto.

Like I said I am just tight with my money :P


Hi Bones,:P

what you are stating is a "scenario", and not in the "real world"! or are you extracting the urine?;)

OMG!:? Sorry you now investigate "dead peeps"?:shock:

Without Any Doubt, "Stealth", Is Correct.:cool:

Any services offered by any consultancy company in the private sector will have to be Marketed in an appropriate manner which is acceptable to everyone?:?:?

Which is what i am trying to suggest!;):P

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Stealth wrote: Wesley wrote:
ps; is that your round next or mine?:P

I'm pretty sure you must owe me one or two Wes ;):):P

Stealth,

have sent you a pm.;)


 

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Problem with the Forum I'm Afraid GOLF.

Go to the Green text above ,Click on VOSA Performance monitoring ,then click on Performance advice PAGE 1, and you will see it!

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why cant i rear this post?

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Bones n Hombre wrote:
Yeah this I can imagine is what really happens , however if it was MY business , I would take the time to KNOW , what I needed to know to protect myself , I mean how long would it take to read both , maybe 3 -4 hours , cover to cover. Do that once a year to remind yourself of things and hey presto.

Like I said I am just tight with my money :P

Do you think 3 - 4 hours once a year is enough - hope you have a good memory ;)

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Wesley wrote:



Stealth,

I think you have just, "hit the nail on the head"!;)........:P

So, "One" has to go out and "Sell" their services and knowlege of the guides and manuals to the testers and AE`s, Before trying to advise them of any shortcomings?

The "Issue" Is to Advise, In a "Consultancy Role", and Not try to "Enforce" as in a Previous Employment?:?

wes.;)



 

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Education & advice is the name of the game - no big sticks - just sound advice based on experience - 'Best Practice' and preventative maintenance if you like.


I can feel a 'Poll' coming on :)
 

;);););)

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ps; is that your round next or mine?:P

I'm pretty sure you must owe me one or two Wes ;):):P

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Stealth wrote: Bones n Hombre wrote: I always figured that , in reality all the answers can be found in the testing guide or the manual or the special notices and I personally would be far to tight , to pay someone else to read those for me.

:D


Bones -

The problem - at least in my experience - is many that testers and AE's don't always have the time, or in some cases the inclination, to spend enough time keeping up to speed by actually reading the Manuals & Special Notices as thoroughly as they could.

They are often only brought down from the shelf & dusted off when there's some 'firefighting' to be done.

;)


Yeah this I can imagine is what really happens , however if it was MY business , I would take the time to KNOW , what I needed to know to protect myself , I mean how long would it take to read both , maybe 3 -4 hours , cover to cover. Do that once a year to remind yourself of things and hey presto.

Like I said I am just tight with my money :P

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Stealth wrote: Bones n Hombre wrote: I always figured that , in reality all the answers can be found in the testing guide or the manual or the special notices and I personally would be far to tight , to pay someone else to read those for me.

:D


Bones -

The problem - at least in my experience - is that many testers and AE's don't always have the time, or in some cases the inclination, to spend enough time keeping up to speed by actually reading the Manuals & Special Notices as thoroughly as they could.

They are often only brought down from the shelf & dusted off when there's some 'firefighting' to be done.

;)



Stealth,

I think you have just, "hit the nail on the head"!;)........:P

So, "One" has to go out and "Sell" their services and knowlege of the guides and manuals to the testers and AE`s, Before trying to advise them of any shortcomings?

The "Issue" Is to Advise, In a "Consultancy Role", and Not try to "Enforce" as in a Previous Employment?:?

wes.;)


ps; is that your round next or mine?:P

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Bones n Hombre wrote: I always figured that , in reality all the answers can be found in the testing guide or the manual or the special notices and I personally would be far to tight , to pay someone else to read those for me.

:D


Bones -

The problem - at least in my experience - is many that testers and AE's don't always have the time, or in some cases the inclination, to spend enough time keeping up to speed by actually reading the Manuals & Special Notices as thoroughly as they could.

They are often only brought down from the shelf & dusted off when there's some 'firefighting' to be done.

;)

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I always figured that , in reality all the answers can be found in the testing guide or the manual or the special notices and I personally would be far to tight , to pay someone else to read those for me.

:D

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I think,

the transition from "enforcement"!, into "consultantation" is causing a little friction?:?

its a big wide world out here and anyone within, considering the changeover and individual interpretations, of the requirements, Must take this into their own account.;)

"taters":D

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russell wrote: i had the same gents in did not like his attitude i think he still  thought he worked for  vosa did not like it when i told him i did not want his services as i was with some one else  
Perhaps the 'Hard Sell' is because they are not signing up as many sites as they expected ;)

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i had the same gents in did not like his attitude i think he still  thought he worked for  vosa did not like it when i told him i did not want his services as i was with some one else  

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Stealth wrote: Wesley wrote: gaz657 wrote: I have just had a visit today from a VE from Aberdeen who left VOSA at end of December and he has teamed up with an examiner from central Scotland and the previous area Manager from Inverness. he informed me that they all left at the end of December and have formed an MOT an haulage consultancy company. My boss has signed them up to do a yearly garage check and some QC checks, I dont know exactly what it cost but my boss claimed it was less than the price of a test each month, he says they will also act on our behave if we face points for making a mistake. I dont have a contact number ,but I could check the leaflet at work and let anybody thats interested know. it just goes to show that there are a few examiners jumping ship? 

Hi peeps,

This might be the "guys" that phoned us, as previously posted below?:?

On the phone they seem to be really agressive in their sales pitch when you challenge what they are actually offering?:?

Bearing in mind we were in the green on first assesment and have acted on advice given by VOSA, and since then we have had a further visit and have Improved our "ratings" even more,:D:P

An Agressive "Sales Pitch"?:X

"Hardball"?:? Sorry, "No Biscuit"!:P

  

Stealth disappears over the wall & ducks for cover :P;)


"Nice Parapet";)

"Cookies"?.............PMSL:P;):D

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Wesley wrote: gaz657 wrote: I have just had a visit today from a VE from Aberdeen who left VOSA at end of December and he has teamed up with an examiner from central Scotland and the previous area Manager from Inverness. he informed me that they all left at the end of December and have formed an MOT an haulage consultancy company. My boss has signed them up to do a yearly garage check and some QC checks, I dont know exactly what it cost but my boss claimed it was less than the price of a test each month, he says they will also act on our behave if we face points for making a mistake. I dont have a contact number ,but I could check the leaflet at work and let anybody thats interested know. it just goes to show that there are a few examiners jumping ship? 

Hi peeps,

This might be the "guys" that phoned us, as previously posted below?:?

On the phone they seem to be really agressive in their sales pitch when you challenge what they are actually offering?:?

Bearing in mind we were in the green on first assesment and have acted on advice given by VOSA, and since then we have had a further visit and have Improved our "ratings" even more,:D:P

An Agressive "Sales Pitch"?:X

"Hardball"?:? Sorry, "No Biscuit"!:P

  

Stealth disappears over the wall & ducks for cover :P;)

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gaz657 wrote: I have just had a visit today from a VE from Aberdeen who left VOSA at end of December and he has teamed up with an examiner from central Scotland and the previous area Manager from Inverness. he informed me that they all left at the end of December and have formed an MOT an haulage consultancy company. My boss has signed them up to do a yearly garage check and some QC checks, I dont know exactly what it cost but my boss claimed it was less than the price of a test each month, he says they will also act on our behave if we face points for making a mistake. I dont have a contact number ,but I could check the leaflet at work and let anybody thats interested know. it just goes to show that there are a few examiners jumping ship? 

Hi peeps,

This might be the "guys" that phoned us, as previously posted below?:?

On the phone they seem to be really agressive in their sales pitch when you challenge what they are actually offering?:?

Bearing in mind we were in the green on first assesment and have acted on advice given by VOSA, and since then we have had a further visit and have Improved our "ratings" even more,:D:P

An Agressive "Sales Pitch"?:X

"Hardball"?:? Sorry, "No Biscuit"!:P

  

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MOTconsultant wrote: Advice available from myself a former member of the Retail Motor Industry federation's MOT Technical Operations Team.
Gentlemen The RMIF have recently made the team redundant. Having monitored and worked with 100's of VTS's over the years and represented many when disciplined by VOSA, this advice and help is available.
Please feel free to contact me if my services are required.



Hi,

If You are anything to do with the "latest" "phone sales" RMIF claimed promotion trying to sell "your services" to VE`s across the Country.

May I suggest you go back to College and learn how to become "salesmen" rather than "enforcement officers".:?

The Services You are offering to carry out are "Not Mandatory", so playing "Hardball" Will not work.:P

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Stealth wrote: rocky69 wrote: It wouldn't be a career change would it??

The old sayings -  'a busman's holiday' and 'poacher turned gamekeeper' spring to mind :?

You`ll be buying a "Barbour Jacket" next!:shock:;)

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I think you mean gamekeeper turned poacher, anyway I have had dealings in the past and I always found him to be fair and wasn't power hungry like some of them can be.

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rocky69 wrote: It wouldn't be a career change would it??

The old sayings -  'a busman's holiday' and 'poacher turned gamekeeper' spring to mind :?

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It wouldn't be a career change would it??

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Hmmm - maybe it's time for a career change :cool:

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I have just had a visit today from a VE from Aberdeen who left VOSA at end of December and he has teamed up with an examiner from central Scotland and the previous area Manager from Inverness. he informed me that they all left at the end of December and have formed an MOT an haulage consultancy company. My boss has signed them up to do a yearly garage check and some QC checks, I dont know exactly what it cost but my boss claimed it was less than the price of a test each month, he says they will also act on our behave if we face points for making a mistake. I dont have a contact number ,but I could check the leaflet at work and let anybody thats interested know. it just goes to show that there are a few examiners jumping ship? 

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Its not just the over 50s anyone can go, and they are all fed up with the VOSA grind!!

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That is exactly the point.
VEs are not helping any more, their only task left is to carry out rechecks on completed MoTs.
What are the chances of rechecking an old car with defects worth bitching about.
No, they can only nit pick on what is available and put up everyone's back up by finding full ashtrays etc.
And the over 50s VEs are getting out because of it.
Wheel tapping trucks on laybys in this weather is no joke either.

So as Jim Bowen said, " keep out of the red".

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i beg to differ,have had two spot checks in the last 2 mnths,guys sat outside till the tester concerned had logged it out and came in to conduct full test of cars concerned,2 guys,2 hrs,2 different cars,didnt seem to have any manpower shortages....the best they could come up with over our last(6)similar examinations is that one of our testers hadnt issued an advisory on a rear belt that was starting to fluff a bit.got humpty when i pointed out that advisories aint compulsory anyway and particularily not for a lightly bumpy belt.either do us for something or f*** off....

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and in the hands of testers like my-self

 

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Forget the RMIF, that's nothing compared to VOSA...
The way VOSA are going there won't be any vehicle examiners left to visit the test stations.
Any over 50's are being offered early severance. 80 staff went at the end of December and many more to follow.
VOSA are short of money to say the least.
No more MoT tests are now watched by VE's; no more visits unless necessary.
Road safety is now in the hands of the computer.


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At the beginning of this year the new rules came into force for the disciplinary system which VOSA apply to defaulting Testers and Authorised Examiners – the month ‘short sharp shock’ suspension.

What effect could that have on your business?

MOT Testing Magazine's Editor Jim Punter will be looking at this in February's Issue.

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Probably due to the high charges they ask.
Still it's good that there are some of us around that can help keep those nice VOSA chaps at bay.
Especially that the new 28 day suspension rule starts tomorrow.
I hope this site will notify everyone as to what VOSA will be doing with this new penalty. 
As said. There are some that can keep your license safe.
Use them, if only for advice.
Happy New Year
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Advice available from myself a former member of the Retail Motor Industry federation's MOT Technical Operations Team.
Gentlemen The RMIF have recently made the team redundant. Having monitored and worked with 100's of VTS's over the years and represented many when disciplined by VOSA, this advice and help is available.
Please feel free to contact me if my services are required.

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